Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/31/2005 09:00 AM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Continued from 1:30 Mtg 3/30/05 --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= HB 75 HUNTING
Moved CSHB 75(FIN) Out of Committee
= HB 178 SPECIAL REQUEST LICENSE PLATES
Heard & Held
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 31, 2005                                                                                           
                         9:13 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer called the House  Finance Committee meeting to                                                                   
order at 9:13:18 AM.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Jim Holm                                                                                                         
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Sarah  Gilbertson, Legislative  Liaison,  Department of  Fish                                                                   
and Game; Konrad  Jackson, Staff, Representative  Kurt Olson;                                                                   
Duane  Bannock,   Director,  Division   of  Motor   Vehicles,                                                                   
Department of Administration;  George Gaguzis, Administrative                                                                   
Manager, Division of Motor Vehicles                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Kevin Saxby,  Assistant Attorney  General, Natural  Resources                                                                   
Section, Anchorage                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 75     "An Act relating to promoting and preserving sport                                                                    
          hunting in the state."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 75 (FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee with a                                                                    
          "do pass" recommendation and with a zero note # 1                                                                     
          by the Alaska Department of Fish and Game.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB 178    "An   Act  relating   to   special  motor   vehicle                                                                   
          registration plates; and providing for an                                                                             
          effective date."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          HB 178 was heard and HELD in Committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:13:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 75                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to promoting and preserving sport                                                                         
     hunting in the state."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SARAH GILBERTSON,  LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, ALASKA  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
FISH  AND  GAME,   related  that  the  new   CS,  Version  Y,                                                                   
encompasses  all  of  the changes  requested  by  the  Alaska                                                                   
Department of  Fish and Game and solidifies  the department's                                                                   
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  inquired if  the  bill's  purpose is  to                                                                   
remove  ambiguity about  the right  to  fish and  hunt.   Ms.                                                                   
Gilbertson replied that is her understanding.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:16:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN SAXBY,  ASSISTANT ATTORNEY  GENERAL, NATURAL  RESOURCES                                                                   
SECTION,  ANCHORAGE, (via  teleconference) in  response  to a                                                                   
question by Representative Croft,  replied that the bill adds                                                                   
to existing  authority and does  not establish a  priority of                                                                   
one activity over another.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  MOVED to report CS HB 75  (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee   with    individual   recommendations    and   the                                                                   
accompanying zero fiscal note.   There being NO OBJECTION, it                                                                   
was so ordered.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 75 (FIN) was REPORTED out  of Committee with a "do pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and  with  a zero  note  #  1 by  the  Alaska                                                                   
Department of Fish and Game.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 178                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to special motor vehicle registration                                                                     
     plates; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE KURT  OLSON, explained                                                                   
that  through   this  bill  all  license   plates,  including                                                                   
"vanity"  plates, would  be  made available  for  use on  all                                                                   
motor vehicles.  He reported that  the bill would bring funds                                                                   
into the DMV.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster  asked if  some  type  of evidence  is                                                                   
required  from  Veterans with  Purple  Hearts.   Mr.  Jackson                                                                   
replied yes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  asked for clarification of the  $5,000 amount                                                                   
under operating and under capital  expenditures in the fiscal                                                                   
note.   Mr. Jackson replied  that capital expenditures  would                                                                   
be for additional  plates produced.  Co-Chair  Meyer inquired                                                                   
about FY 06 receipts for supported services.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:22:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DUANE  BANNOCK,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  MOTOR   VEHICLES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF  ADMINISTRATION,  spoke  to  Co-Chair  Meyer's                                                                   
question.   He explained  "vanity" plates  and the  rules for                                                                   
usage of  the plates.   He noted  that the bill  standardizes                                                                   
the  language  and  correctly  notes  that  some  plates  are                                                                   
specific  to people,  but not  specific to  style or type  of                                                                   
automobile.    The  bill  attempts   to  expand  the  use  of                                                                   
personalized  license  plates.    The  newest  plate  is  the                                                                   
commemorative veteran's plate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze spoke of problems  about limited notice of                                                                   
new plates and  lack of communication about  the small number                                                                   
of some plates.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bannock held  up a plate, RUNDMV, and explained  that the                                                                   
background  is  not  important;  the  emblems  are,  for  the                                                                   
purposes of identification by law enforcement.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:28:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked for further  clarification of the fiscal                                                                   
note.  Mr. Bannock explained that  in FY 06 there is a $5,000                                                                   
contractual charge.  It is a one-time  fee previously used to                                                                   
block certain  types of  vehicle registration.   The  capital                                                                   
expenditure  is the expected  incurred cost  of plates  to be                                                                   
sold.  The change  in the revenues line represents  the price                                                                   
intended  for  collection  for  the sale  of  the  additional                                                                   
plates.  Co-Chair Meyer asked  what the actual net to DMV is.                                                                   
Mr. Bannock  replied that it is  $10,000 the first  year, and                                                                   
it is projected that an additional  $45,000 will be collected                                                                   
in both the  first and second  years.  He added that  this is                                                                   
one step  in a marketing scheme  to develop greater  usage of                                                                   
personalized license plates.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch  referred to Section  2 and inquired                                                                   
why  more than  six letters  are  not allowed.   Mr.  Bannock                                                                   
replied  that  the mainframe  system  is outdated  and  won't                                                                   
allow for that possibility.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch inquired  how  much the  fee for  a                                                                   
personalized  plate  is.   Mr.  Bannock  replied  that  under                                                                   
subsection (c) special  request plates, it is  $30 per plate.                                                                   
Representative Weyhrauch asked  if it is a one-time fee.  Mr.                                                                   
Bannock related  that it  is because that's  the way  the law                                                                   
reads.  He  clarified that the commemorating  veteran's plate                                                                   
has a  biennial fee.  Representative  Weyhrauch asked  if the                                                                   
only  special fee  is under  section (w)  of the  bill.   Mr.                                                                   
Bannock replied  that is  correct.  Representative  Weyhrauch                                                                   
asked if  there was a legislative  reason for  requiring that                                                                   
specific portion  of the  statute.   Mr. Bannock referred  to                                                                   
section  (16), and  explained  that cost  of issuing  special                                                                   
request  plates may be  appropriated by  the legislature  for                                                                   
the  support   of  programs   benefiting  Alaskan   veterans.                                                                   
Representative  Weyhrauch summarized  that all other  special                                                                   
requests plates, such as kid plates, are only charged once.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch referred  to section  13 and  asked                                                                   
when  the  last time  the  legislature  addressed  increasing                                                                   
these  fees.    Mr.  Bannock replied  that  in  FY  04,  both                                                                   
commercial   and   non-commercial  registration   fees   were                                                                   
addressed  and adjusted  upwards.   This would  result in  an                                                                   
increase in revenue of about $12 million per year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:36:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  requested clarification on  veteran's plates.                                                                   
Mr.  Bannock  replied  that  the   intent  was  to  create  a                                                                   
fundraising mechanism  for veterans.  One plate  is for those                                                                   
who have served; one is to support  veterans.  Co-Chair Meyer                                                                   
asked  how the  money  gets to  the  veterans.   Mr.  Bannock                                                                   
explained  that  DMV  collects  the money,  accounts  for  it                                                                   
separately,  and reports it  to the  state's general  fund as                                                                   
specific money raised from the plate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze asked  if there is  regulation in  place,                                                                   
which  would  prevent  inappropriate  plates.    Mr.  Bannock                                                                   
replied  yes.  He  explained it  is a  two-part process,  yet                                                                   
some bad plates are missed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  asked if the fees collected  that go to                                                                   
the  general  fund become  a  dedicated  fund.   Mr.  Bannock                                                                   
deferred to Mr. Gaguzis.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:40:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE  GAGUZIS, ADMINISTRATIVE  MANAGER,  DIVISION OF  MOTOR                                                                   
VEHICLES, explained how the funds  go to the general fund and                                                                   
are appropriated.   He explained that veterans'  programs are                                                                   
governed  by  DMVA.    Representative   Joule  asked  for  an                                                                   
example.   Mr. Gaguzis  gave an example  of grant  money used                                                                   
for a monument.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch asked  why other programs don't have                                                                   
the  same reoccurring  fee.   Mr. Gaguzis  explained that  SB
246, the  Veteran Commemorative  Plate Bill,  set it  up this                                                                   
way.   Other  organizations are  hoping to  market plates  as                                                                   
fundraisers.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:45:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  asked Mr. Bannock  to show the  rest of                                                                   
his plates.  Mr. Bannock displayed  a variety of personalized                                                                   
license plates.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  acknowledged Mr. Gaguzis's  contributions                                                                   
to veterans' activities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:54:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule asked if  the plates reflect headlights.                                                                   
Mr. Bannock  said  the goal is  to have  reflective paint  on                                                                   
every  plate.   He held up  an example  of a  flat plate  and                                                                   
noted that embossed plates are easier to read.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   voiced  his  appreciation   for  the                                                                   
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:58:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm MOVED to  ADOPT Conceptual  Amendment 1,                                                                   
on page  6, line 1, remove  the charge for recipients  of the                                                                   
Purple Heart.   He noted that on line 3 on  page 7, prisoners                                                                   
of  war pay  no  fee.   He  pointed out  that  there are  519                                                                   
recipients  of Purple  Hearts, which would  equal $15,700  in                                                                   
lost revenue.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bannock projected  that  based on  estimates  of 50  new                                                                   
Purple Hearts  recipients, the  decrease in revenue  would be                                                                   
$1,500.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm  commended  Mr.  Bannock  and DMV.    He                                                                   
emphasized limiting charges to Purple Heart recipients.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer agreed  with Representative  Holm.  He  noted                                                                   
that none  of the money that  would have been  collected from                                                                   
the  fee from  Purple Heart  plates  goes to  veterans.   Mr.                                                                   
Bannock said that is correct.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch  suggested that like  "1 percent for                                                                   
the arts" this  idea might be used to raise  money to replace                                                                   
those fees  lost by  the removal of  the Purple Heart  plates                                                                   
category.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked if Representative  Weyhrauch's intent is                                                                   
to  make  up  the  money  lost  by  Conceptual  Amendment  1.                                                                   
Representative Weyhrauch noted that it is an option.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  commented about loss of  revenue from a                                                                   
money making venture.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:03:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  voiced  support   for  the  amendment.    He                                                                   
suggested  that  the  committee   deal  with  money-replacing                                                                   
issues at  another time.  Mr.  Bannock agreed and  added that                                                                   
the bill  is not  about funding,  but breaking down  barriers                                                                   
concerning usage of the plates                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  asked if Mr.  Bannock objected  to Conceptual                                                                   
Amendment 1.  He  said DMV supports the amendment.   He added                                                                   
that the plates  cost $5.25 each and the decrease  in revenue                                                                   
is not an issue.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:06:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch  asked   if  prisoners  make  these                                                                   
plates.   Mr. Bannock  said, no, a  firm in Portland,  Oregon                                                                   
does.    Representative  Weyhrauch asked  for  the  sponsor's                                                                   
opinion of the amendment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jackson  opined that  the sponsor  would have no  problem                                                                   
with the amendment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer REMOVED  his  OBJECTION  to adopt  Conceptual                                                                   
Amendment 1.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  suggested that  Representative Weyhrauch  get                                                                   
together with the sponsor to discuss his ideas.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:08:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch  explained a potential  amendment to                                                                   
add another special request plate  to make up for the loss of                                                                   
funds due  to Conceptual  Amendment 1.   Mr. Jackson  replied                                                                   
that he is not  opposed to that idea.  Mr.  Bannock also said                                                                   
he is not opposed to the idea.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule asked for  the amount specialty  plates                                                                   
would raise every  two years.  Mr. Bannock said  he could get                                                                   
those figures and that projections could be worked out.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jackson  agreed that  the sponsor  would prefer  that the                                                                   
bill be held until Conceptual Amendment 2 is made.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB  178  was   heard  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:14 AM                                                                                           

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